Undercurrents Podcast

A bi-weekly podcast hosted by whitewater athlete, instructor, and expert Chris Wing, who will offer musings, interviews, and insight based on listener questions on the intrinsic value and motivations of our pursuits in outdoor sport, specifically inspired by folks who play on the fringe.

Episode 6: The Ovett’s – Leave No Trace Outdoor Ethics

Show Notes! Sam and Jenna fell in love with the outdoors and each other in the Nantahala Gorge in Western NC nearly a half decade ago. Before they married they decided to take on the challenge of living together on the road, while working, as “traveling trainers” for the Leave No Trace organization. Already advocates […]

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Episode 8: DARCY GAECHTER – AMAZON WOMAN

Show Notes!In this interview with Darcy Gaechter we uncover motivations rooted in being counted out. Being small, a woman, not fitting a stereotypical mold that the world projects that we must fit in, Darcy is the perfect example of how a “chip on the shoulder” can be a positive motivator. Of course, choosing alternative lifestyles

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Episode 5: Heather Ekstrom – “The Pain Cave”

[st_divider divider_type=”border” height=”” margin_top=”10″ margin_bottom=”10″] Show Notes! Heather Ekstrom has been exploring edges since she was a little girl. Growing up in a household full of activity, Heather was encouraged to find ‘fun’ and chase after it; the kicker being that she got to be the one to slap the definition on ‘fun’ herself. From

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Episode 7: John Ditmars – Trauma, Treatment, and Love

[st_divider divider_type=”border” height=”” margin_top=”10″ margin_bottom=”10″] Show Notes! What I thought was going to be an episode about preventative medicine and dealing with injuries, I realized it was more of a love story than anything else. John Ditmars found himself hitting a rock bottom when he experienced a traumatic injury which pretty much left him paralyzed.

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Episode 4: Emergency Episode with Chris and Lyd, Revisit with Past Episodes and Ideas

[st_divider divider_type=”border” height=”” margin_top=”10″ margin_bottom=”10″] Show Notes! Although this wasn’t our intended episode 4, we eventually were going to get to a review episode of some of our past episodes. We’re happy to get to this sooner rather than later as we are still early in the life of UnderCurrents and will help us define

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Episode 2: Kaysee Armstrong – Burnout, Gratitude, and Myths of Mental Wellness

[st_divider divider_type=”border” height=”” margin_top=”10″ margin_bottom=”10″] Show Notes! Kaysee Armstrong is magnetic… and intense. We often think about the draw, the pull of magnetism, but it also has the opposite effect, too: pushing away. Kaysee’s intensity in life and in her professional pursuit of mountain biking can change the polarity of that magnetism. She’s learning to

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Episode 1: Robbie Gilson – Anything IS Everything

[st_divider divider_type=”border” height=”” margin_top=”” margin_bottom=””] Show Notes! Robbie has been an influential character in whitewater kayaking, especially in the last few years. He has a deeply introspective approach to his paddling, river snorkeling, and all around way around water… but not without controversy either. In the Fall of 2019, Robbie and friend Mac McGee swam

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